Self-Sourced Box Turtle - Trident Beacon Update

[PFarm]

I decided to install the Box Turtle on the V2 instead the colour matches as well.

[PFarm]

I purchased these signs last year when we travelled to the southern US and drove the Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway and the famous Tail Of The Dragon. I was looking for a home for these two signs and figured the printers would be a good home. For those who aren't familiar with Tail Of The Dragon it is an 11-mile stretch of road with 318 turns it is an awesome feeling to accelerate out of the corner and downshift for the next! Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway is a stretch of twisting 400 miles of road through the scenic mountains and a thrill to drive.

Edited March 23 by PFarm

[claudermilk]

Nope, not jealous at all. OK, I lied.

You're not just cruising around there either I see.

[PFarm]

4 hours ago, claudermilk said:

You're not just cruising around there either I see.

No, I wasn't. I pushed the car as hard as I could while staying in my lane.

Edited March 23 by PFarm

[Penatr8tor]

On 3/23/2025 at 9:23 AM, PFarm said:

I purchased these signs last year when we travelled to the southern US and drove the Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway and the famous Tail Of The Dragon. I was looking for a home for these two signs and figured the printers would be a good home. For those who aren't familiar with Tail Of The Dragon it is an 11-mile stretch of road with 318 turns it is an awesome feeling to accelerate out of the corner and downshift for the next! Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway is a stretch of twisting 400 miles of road through the scenic mountains and a thrill to drive.

Deals Gap and the surrounding roads have been a destination of mine for decades. I first went in 2000 with 5 other guys. We rode from Miami to Deals Gap and we brought along camping gear and camped along the way. I had just bought a new 2000 Hayabusa for the trip. I think we logged close to 4K miles (6400km).

Since then, I've gone on a trip to that area most years.

And my last trip a couple years ago.

Time to head back, I think.

 

 

[PFarm]

@Penatr8tor must be an awesome ride on a bike!

[Penatr8tor]

1 minute ago, PFarm said:

@Penatr8tor must be an awesome ride on a bike!

The most awesome IMO was riding the Cherohalla with 4 other riders all on Hayabusa's... There are a series of ~180-200 degree sweeping turns in the middle near the highest point where the speed limit sign entering the corner had 25mph posted... We were all in a tight pack, entering the turn at ~65 and exiting at 120+, a train of 4 roaring beasts, full lean, knee dragging, no fear... just huge grins inside our helmets.

Yeah... that was a ride for sure.

[Penatr8tor]

I forgot to add.  The older I get the faster I was

[PFarm]

On 3/25/2025 at 12:17 PM, Penatr8tor said:

The most awesome IMO was riding the Cherohalla with 4 other riders all on Hayabusa's...

I was reading up on the 2024 Hayabusa man; the bike's technology is amazing.

[Penatr8tor]

35 minutes ago, PFarm said:

I was reading up on the 2024 Hayabusa man; the bike's technology is amazing.

Agree but things like anti-lock brakes, traction and wheelie control, etc weren't on the bike I had... Just a motor and kind of OK suspension.

I just looked at the new bike and Wow... You hardly have to know how to ride anymore. 

The Hill Hold Control System helps hold the Hayabusa when it is stopped on an incline, providing confidence so riders can focus on smoother takeoffs up the hill.
When stopping upward on a hill and applying the brakes, this system automatically operates the rear brake for around 30 seconds to prevent the motorcycle from rolling back down the hill even if the rider releases the brake lever or pedal.
When the rider releases the brake lever or foot pedal, the ECM detects the rider’s intention to ride forward and releases the rear brake pressure smoothly.
The rider can also disengage the Hill Hold System by squeezing the front brake lever twice or use the left handlebar control and the instrument cluster with the system off.
An “H” mark lights on the instrument cluster when the system is engaged, and flashes when the system is disengaged.

[TitusADuxass]

15 hours ago, PFarm said:

I was reading up on the 2024 Hayabusa man; the bike's technology is amazing.

I've got the full suite of toys on my Aprilia 660. I wouldn't like to ride it without them. The front coming up has caught me out a couple of times, fortunately the system saved my arse. I also really like the ABS when it's wet, it even works banked over.

[Penatr8tor]

6 hours ago, TitusADuxass said:

The front coming up has caught me out a couple of times,

...and I'm that one crazy rider that only wants to ride with the front in the air. 

 

[PFarm]

1 hour ago, Penatr8tor said:

...and I'm that one crazy rider that only wants to ride with the front in the air. 

I know the feeling, never had road bikes (probably wouldn't be here if I did) but a lot of CR500 2 stroke motocross bikes.

 

Edited March 28 by PFarm

[TitusADuxass]

On 3/28/2025 at 3:35 PM, PFarm said:

I know the feeling, never had road bikes (probably wouldn't be here if I did) but a lot of CR500 2 stroke motocross bikes.

CR500! Oooh they were a scary beast.

[PFarm]

5 hours ago, TitusADuxass said:

CR500! Oooh they were a scary beast.

That they were! The first CR was a CR480 air-cooled four-speed, the best wheelie bike I ever had. It was the closest power band to a four-stroke from a 2-stroke engine. The next one was a CR500 air-cooled, and the last one was a CR500 water-cooled, which helped tame down the power band. People say you can probably go faster around the track on a CR250, and I can see that, you're ALWAYS fighting the power of the big bore, but I did love to ride them, and nothing comes out of a corner like them! Had a few brave souls who wanted to try riding one, but all came back saying you're crazy riding this thing.

Edited March 31 by PFarm

[claudermilk]

On 3/28/2025 at 6:27 AM, Penatr8tor said:

...and I'm that one crazy rider that only wants to ride with the front in the air. 

Pics of you on your current beast with the front in the air? 

[Penatr8tor]

29 minutes ago, claudermilk said:

Pics of you on your current beast with the front in the air? 

Well... I have two current beasts, one can and the other can't. 

Below is an original mixed media piece I commissioned from Jason Watt

Here's the photo...

[PFarm]

@Penatr8tor Very cool photo, my dare devil friend!

[Coeus]

@PFarm -  I've been reading through your build threads and you're well on the way!  Excellent job so far, especially watching the good documentation here.

@mvdveer - Great job on your build!

I'm looking to jump into a build on the Box Turtle, as I've been watching the development over the last six months or so since this iteration was first mentioned by MakerMylo.  I purchased an ERCF kit many months ago but haven't been able to get the time to start this. And, given the headaches people are complaining about with the Rabbit, with the benefits of this one also described, I'm very inclined to sell my kit and start this one.

But - I'll be building for an Enclosed RatRig 3.1 300 I built last year, and updated to latest RatOS release. Reasonably modified from stock - main items include BTT EBB42 toolhead, Phaetus Rapido 2 UHF with Bondtech LGX Lite, VZbot CPAP part cooling and muffler, Beacon Rev H, SFS 2.0, custom DIN electronics rails and attachments, X/Y isolation mounts, and nearing completion on Nevermore StealthMax (although some troubles here).  All around, a very good printer as I upgraded to add from my Ender 3 Pro (still have for my kids).  I'm looking to upgrade my multi-color experience as it's currently a fully manual process.

I know my config isn't near mainstream for base Vorobn toolhead builds as it doesn't have the Stealthburner family of toolheads (Orbiter extruder and CPAP cooling changeup, I think mainly), so I figure those points are where many issues may come up. 

Looking for some tips here from those who have built the Box Turtle, and your experiences seem to show very good chances of success here - 
The tricks I'm seeing is going to be adapting to the size of the Rig.  Some questions -

• Cutter - I see an early reference to a different cutter.  Is the Snappy cutter still a thing?  I've seen some toolhead cutters on Printables that could be usable for me.  The official recommendation is the FilamATrix on the Stealthburner. I'm not opposed to either, but also haven't been able to discern where the actual cutter seems to be better.  My suspicion is that mass reduction for print performance may prevail here, but contradicts the recommendation in GitHub. Ditching my current toolhead setup isn't something I'm drawn towards given the cost to do so.
• Is the cost reduction of self-source worth the extra work?
• Frame match up - Vorons and RatRigs are slightly different in their sizes.  It seems that I'd need an adapter to mount the Boxturtle to the top of my Enclosure?  Or - custom sized frame for Boxturtle? I'd like to keep a low horizontal profile on my printer base - so mounting to the top of the printer seems the likely direction. 
• I did find a Printables toolhead filament detector for the LGX Lite - in process of assy.

I'll continue to watch the progress here and look forward to your insights.  My main theme is to build on the shoulders of others, but I'm not opposed to jumping into a build.  My kids certainly want to see the more near term fun.  

Thanks in advance!

Edited March 31 by Coeus
Incomplete post.

[mvdveer]

4 hours ago, Coeus said:

 Is the Snappy cutter still a thing?

Not recommended - toolhead cutters as mentioned FilamAtrix is the go now. If you do go with the toolhead cutter, then use the adaptation that uses the D2W microswitch - more reliable.

4 hours ago, Coeus said:

Is the cost reduction of self-source worth the extra work?

Depends on your circumstances. The LDO kits have the hardware for the FilamAtrix/Filametrix cutter included and all extrusions are pre-drilled and tapped.

 

4 hours ago, Coeus said:

It seems that I'd need an adapter to mount the Boxturtle to the top of my Enclosure?

The Box Turtle can sit anywhere - next to the printer, on a shelf on top or below the printer

[Coeus]

@mvdveer Good to know on Snappy and the D2M switches.

Oh - and what about extending to more than 4 lanes?  I've seen 5 or 6 lanes in some of the early versions, but more typically I've seen only 4 lanes.  And - Isik's Tech seems to no longer support them with the AFC-Pro board (not available) as the only option.

[mvdveer]

1 hour ago, Coeus said:

@mvdveer Good to know on Snappy and the D2M switches.

Oh - and what about extending to more than 4 lanes?  I've seen 5 or 6 lanes in some of the early versions, but more typically I've seen only 4 lanes.  And - Isik's Tech seems to no longer support them with the AFC-Pro board (not available) as the only option.

I have seen builds up to 8 lanes. The AFC-Lite board is integrated in those, having two boards - then you can go up to 8 lanes. Each of the boards will have its own UUID. You will then have to obviously adjust the stl's accordingly.