Cartographer Probe

[PFarm]

The Fly SB2040 comes with 3m of cable which plugs in the circuit board power and ground, low and high CAN. You can put both the USB cable and CAN cable inside a flex loom for your umbilical. The other end of the CAN cable connects to the UTOC board in the electronics bay.

[mvdveer]

1 hour ago, Penatr8tor said:

Would this be a good choice for the toolhead CAN PCB?

Fly-SB2040-V2

and pair it with

Fly UTOC-3

Also, what do you use for cabling? Are you buying a premade cable or fabricating one yourself?

I assume that my umbilical will end up with 2 cables, the CAN and the Beacon USB.

That is the exact combination I am using though the UTOC -3 is an overkill. A UTOC - 1 will do. However with the slight difference in price the UTOC 3 is a sensible option. The Mellow products comes with a supplied cable - a very good one at that.  (Power and Can)

Ye you will have the USB from Beacon and the Can cable running from the toolhead.

 

[Penatr8tor]

Thanks @PFarm

I'm shopping now. I'm going to get an Orbiter 2 extruder and use the SHT36 V2 board. Which version should I get? do I need an encoder? or a PT100 chip on board? Those are the options on Aliexpress' Mellow listing.

CAN Boards

I also need a USB interface like the Fly UTOC-1, Correct?

[mvdveer]

Just now, Penatr8tor said:

I also need a USB interface like the Fly UTOC-1, Correct?

Not if you are using the Octopus board as the Canbus bridge. Nor if you are using the Fly UTOC-3

[Penatr8tor]

@mvdveer Is there a 2 board combo for the SHT36 board or just the SB2040?

 

[Penatr8tor]

1 minute ago, mvdveer said:

Not if you are using the Octopus board as the Canbus bridge. Nor if you are using the Fly UTOC-3

So which way to you recommend for a 1st timer.

1. Connect directly to the Octopus

or

2. Connect with UTOC-1 thru USB to the Pi

[mvdveer]

Connect with UTOC-1. to pi

 

[mvdveer]

11 minutes ago, Penatr8tor said:

@mvdveer Is there a 2 board combo for the SHT36 board or just the SB2040?

No unfortunately not for the SHT36

[PFarm]

 

32 minutes ago, Penatr8tor said:

Thanks @PFarm

a PT100 chip on board? 

If you want to use you're existing thermistor you won't need the PT100 feature. PT100 thermistors are supposed to be more accurate from my understanding.

Edited July 3, 2024 by PFarm

[Penatr8tor]

10 minutes ago, mvdveer said:

Connect with UTOC-1. to pi

Perfect!

I also did some research and learned that the PT100 chip (thanks @PFarm) is for more accurate temps and the 2204 chip is for better data transmission.

I assume having these will be either better or not essential but not a show stopper. Buying the board with both is literally only a few dollars more so... if there's no issue I'll get the full featured boards. Also, there are no 2204's with supplied cable in stock but I can buy a Mellow CANBUS cable separately. I will stick with the UTOC-1 tho.

[PFarm]

Installation note on the CAN cable it recommended twisting the L&H (yellow & white) cables before terminating them. 

[mvdveer]

46 minutes ago, Penatr8tor said:

if there's no issue I'll get the full featured boards.

The way to go

[Penatr8tor]

Thanks guys, Gonna try my best to be an AmeriCAN and not an AmeriCAN'T 

[mvdveer]

1 hour ago, Penatr8tor said:

not an AmeriCAN'T

@claudermilk 

[claudermilk]

Won't not Can't.  i have enough other projects and not-printer issues to deal with that I do not need to break my Trident right now.

[Penatr8tor]

11 minutes ago, claudermilk said:

Won't not Can't.  i have enough other projects and not-printer issues to deal with that I do not need to break my Trident right now.

Honestly, I felt that I just wasn't torturing myself enough so now I'm going CAN. 

[Penatr8tor]

@mvdveer I think I remember you mentioning that there's a CNC beacon probe mount for the stealthburner. If you know of one, could you point me in the right direction?

If anyone knows of one, please chime in. 

[PFarm]

1 hour ago, Penatr8tor said:

Honestly, I felt that I just wasn't torturing myself enough so now I'm going CAN. 

Welcome to the CAN torture club! 

[Dirk]

On 7/2/2024 at 3:17 PM, PFarm said:

Timer too close

Esoterical explains here that the TTC is a very annoying error. But it can be mainly attributed to the inferior character of the CB1 from BTT.

Solutions include the ones named, but Esoterical mentions repetitively that he has had much success with the solutions he suggests here. And that the part he describes under 'experimental' actually helped most of the times to solve this specific kind of problem.

In the beta group people with a CB1 fail to achieve accurate results and get better results when they get a CM4 instead of the CB1.

I also would like to mention that Beacon's warranty is VOID, if you use it with a Manta board.

 

[Shapeshifter]

On 6/14/2024 at 7:02 PM, Shapeshifter said:

Didn't take long, shipped now. Free shipping, so it'll probably arrive in a few weeks.

Arrived now, 2-3 weeks to EU then.

[mvdveer]

8 hours ago, Penatr8tor said:

@mvdveer I think I remember you mentioning that there's a CNC beacon probe mount for the stealthburner. If you know of one, could you point me in the right direction?

If anyone knows of one, please chime in. 

This is the one that works well and well manufactured.

[WessPless]

I'm currently using TAP - based on your experience - do you guys think it make sense to keep TAP and add Cartographer probe ?

using TAP for homing and Quad Gantry leveling and Cartographer for bed leveling ? is it even possible ? is that even make sense ? 

I would appreciate your advice  ....

Edited July 7, 2024 by WessPless

[TitusADuxass]

8 hours ago, WessPless said:

using TAP for homing and Quad Gantry leveling and Cartographer for bed leveling ? is it even possible ? is that even make sense?

Interesting idea, I will be following this topic. I'm also running (cnc)TAP but am looking at this for my v2.4

[atrushing]

10 hours ago, WessPless said:

I'm currently using TAP - based on your experience - do you guys think it make sense to keep TAP and add Cartographer probe ?

using TAP for homing and Quad Gantry leveling and Cartographer for bed leveling ? is it even possible ? is that even make sense ? 

I would appreciate your advice  ....

There is a mod that does exactly this on Printables and I am (slowly) working on designing a similar setup for the Mini Stealth DAB.

[PFarm]

Not sure h

11 hours ago, WessPless said:

I'm currently using TAP - based on your experience - do you guys think it make sense to keep TAP and add Cartographer probe ?

using TAP for homing and Quad Gantry leveling and Cartographer for bed leveling ? is it even possible ? is that even make sense ? 

I would appreciate your advice  ....

Why not use Beacon with touch instead?

@atrushing how do you get around the endstop-pin both used by Cartographer and Tap, rename one?

 

• Example: endstop_pin: probe:z_virtual_endstop

 

Edited July 8, 2024 by PFarm