My first build / 3d printer

[mvdveer]

See page 26 of the manual for Galileo model:

 

Or for CW2 this

[sleepster217]

4 hours ago, mvdveer said:

Don’t get that one - won’t work with the current stl’s

Ok thankyou so the one u linked is the correct one then ?

[sleepster217]

4 hours ago, mvdveer said:

See page 26 of the manual for Galileo model:

 

Or for CW2 this

I am using the Galileo 2 as was recommended by some who knows better than me thankyou

[mvdveer]

1 hour ago, sleepster217 said:

Ok thankyou so the one u linked is the correct one then ?

Yes that is the one. This is my order for reference.

[sleepster217]

50 minutes ago, mvdveer said:

Yes that is the one. This is my order for reference.

Thankyou got some on order

[BeerMedic522]

On 5/28/2024 at 1:03 PM, Penatr8tor said:

Yes, you need the hat to run the NVME SSD. I specifically reference "NVME" because the old SATA M.2 drives will not work.

The hat will also work if you have the Pi5 official active cooler installed (which I do) and what's nice is that the fan on the 5 has a special connector and doesn't use the PIO power pins. You also get a PIO pin riser with the hat as well.

I have this one -> Waveshare NVME Hat $16 US

And I'm using this for my SSD -> Samsung 256gb NVME SSD $25 US

And the Pi5 cooler -> Active Cooler $13 US

I also went ahead and bought an NVME to USB Adapter $11 US to flash the Pi OS onto the drive from my PC.

All told the total additional isn't really that much (~$65 US) considering the benefits over the old Pi. 

Can this same type of setup be done on an RPi 4??

[mvdveer]

1 minute ago, BeerMedic522 said:

Can this same type of setup be done on an RPi 4??

Yes it can, as long as you get a hat suitable for the pi4 as e.g this on Amazon.

[Penatr8tor]

1 hour ago, BeerMedic522 said:

Can this same type of setup be done on an RPi 4??

I will expand on what @mvdveer said...

Yes, it will but you are giving up a good amount of performance by going with the Pi4, and not processor performance between the Pi4 and Pi5 which I believe is ~4-5X faster than the Pi4. The big difference when it comes to storage between the two is that the Pi4 has no PCI Express lanes built into it, so with the Pi4 you have to use USB 3.0 to connect. The speed difference between PCIe and USB is... PCIe 2.0 X 1 = 500 MB/s versus USB 3.0 = 0.626 MB/s (~300X faster) and I will toss this in for good measure... The Pi4 USB ports are shared so additional devices you connect are going to use some of your USB bandwidth.

So, to reiterate... Yes, it can, but would I? Probably not. Using an NVME SSD for storage was never part of the design of the Pi4 and using one thru USB is a compromise where you're losing a most of the performance advantages because you cannot use the intended interface. The Pi5 on the other hand has been designed to take full advantage of the NVME interface.

Final Advice: Get a Pi5 and call it a day or if you don't want to switch or can't afford it... then make sure you have a good name brand SD card to get the most performance and longevity out of your Pi4.

Edited June 3, 2024 by Penatr8tor
Misspelled some stuff

[sleepster217]

2 hours ago, Penatr8tor said:

I will expand on what @mvdveer said...

Yes, it will but you are giving up a good amount of performance by going with the Pi4, and not processor performance between the Pi4 and Pi5 which I believe is ~4-5X faster than the Pi4. The big difference when it comes to storage between the two is that the Pi4 has no PCI Express lanes built into it, so with the Pi4 you have to use USB 3.0 to connect. The speed difference between PCIe and USB is... PCIe 2.0 X 1 = 500 MB/s versus USB 3.0 = 0.626 MB/s (~300X faster) and I will toss this in for good measure... The Pi4 USB ports are shared so additional devices you connect are going to use some of your USB bandwidth.

So, to reiterate... Yes, it can, but would I? Probably not. Using an NVME SSD for storage was never part of the design of the Pi4 and using one thru USB is a compromise where you're losing a most of the performance advantages because you cannot use the intended interface. The Pi5 on the other hand has been designed to take full advantage of the NVME interface.

Final Advice: Get a Pi5 and call it a day or if you don't want to switch or can't afford it... then make sure you have a good name brand SD card to get the most performance and longevity out of your Pi4.

Thankyou for the extra information I will look at getting a Pi 5 instead now

[BeerMedic522]

Pi5 it is

[sleepster217]

So just installed the z drives about to put up the z beefy idlers as well as long as I can cut the 5mm shafts

[sleepster217]

Beefy rollers for the z idlers mostly installed just need to cut more shafts tomorrow also cleaned and greesed the linear rails so faily happy so far try and get some more done tomorrow

[sleepster217]

Thought I would fit up the print bed will need to remove later as I have not ordered the heater and flex sheet yet but wanted to see what it looked like fitted I also fitted the nozzel brush but will be taking it to work to use some adhesion promoter so the brush sticky stuff dose not lift as quick I am also waiting on the magnets for the purge bucket the nozzle brush I used has the sheet stops as well just to be fancy 

Edited June 4, 2024 by sleepster217

[sleepster217]

What glue dose everyone like to use to glue in the magnets so they don't fall out over time ?

[PFarm]

1 hour ago, sleepster217 said:

What glue dose everyone like to use to glue in the magnets so they don't fall out over time ?

Comes with adhesive on the magnetic sheet. Apply downward pressure with a roller or plastic spatula while pulling back the protective adhesive paper a bit at a time. 

Edited June 4, 2024 by PFarm

[sleepster217]

5 hours ago, PFarm said:

Comes with adhesive on the magnetic sheet. Apply downward pressure with a roller or plastic spatula while pulling back the protective adhesive paper a bit at a time. 

Sorry I mean the little round ones for the doors etc as I need them for the purge bucket

[PFarm]

@sleepster217 Ah ok! I use small amounts of "Super" glue to keep them in. Just be aware of the polarities before permanent insertion.

Edited June 4, 2024 by PFarm

[mvdveer]

7 hours ago, sleepster217 said:

What glue dose everyone like to use to glue in the magnets so they don't fall out over time ?

I use gorilla glue (Superglue) from Bunnings

[sleepster217]

Just now, mvdveer said:

I use gorilla glue (Superglue) from Bunnings

I have some of the gel version of that

[mvdveer]

8 minutes ago, sleepster217 said:

I have some of the gel version of that

That will work, just be aware gel takes longer to "dry" and adhere.

[sleepster217]

39 minutes ago, mvdveer said:

That will work, just be aware gel takes longer to "dry" and adhere.

Thankyou for the heads up

[claudermilk]

That's what I used for the majority of my magnets: Gorilla Gel. The only ones I've had fail their hold is the Klicky carriage (and that's irrelevant now that I've switched to Tap).

[sleepster217]

42 minutes ago, claudermilk said:

That's what I used for the majority of my magnets: Gorilla Gel. The only ones I've had fail their hold is the Klicky carriage (and that's irrelevant now that I've switched to Tap).

Thankyou

[sleepster217]

Come to a stand still for now as I am waiting on the last 2 motors have been thinking about robbing the ones on the z and changing the pulleys but think I might just be patient and wait is half the fun right 

[sleepster217]

So I decided to get a bit more done will be ordering some more parts next week if all goes to plan