My first build / 3d printer

[sleepster217]

Hey was looking at some vendors on allyexpress and yes I know they say on the build the the quality of the meanwell psu cannot be verified but has any one brought one from MEAN WELL CHINA as the reviews look good but I am not sure as the local vendors are a bit pricey 

[mvdveer]

1 hour ago, sleepster217 said:

Hey was looking at some vendors on allyexpress and yes I know they say on the build the the quality of the meanwell psu cannot be verified but has any one brought one from MEAN WELL CHINA as the reviews look good but I am not sure as the local vendors are a bit pricey 

Nope. got all my power supplies locally (Australia) . Use makerstore, wavecom or mouser.  Digikey is cheaper but although they say .au, it mostly ships from the USA and the postage kills! You can always try Meanwell Australia as well, though I found them to be more expensive than the distributors.

May be a bit more expensive than Aliexpress but I am assured of quality - no guessing there.

[sleepster217]

20 minutes ago, mvdveer said:

Nope. got all my power supplies locally (Australia) . Use makerstore, wavecom or mouser.  Digikey is cheaper but although they say .au, it mostly ships from the USA and the postage kills! You can always try Meanwell Australia as well, though I found them to be more expensive than the distributors.

May be a bit more expensive than Aliexpress but I am assured of quality - no guessing there.

Ok thankyou I was a bit on the fence but thought I would ask 

[Dirk]

Well... To be fair..

All the kits that were talked about here, are from China. I do not know any kits that are put together by Australian or European or American companies.

All kits contain the Meanwell PSU you mention. And I doubt they are different than the ones sold on AliExpress. 

I do not think it is bad to check if you are buying good and recommended stuff, I think it is good to realize we are here al together thanks to the Chinese companies that make the kits and produce the parts for us.

[sleepster217]

48 minutes ago, Dirk said:

Well... To be fair..

All the kits that were talked about here, are from China. I do not know any kits that are put together by Australian or European or American companies.

All kits contain the Meanwell PSU you mention. And I doubt they are different than the ones sold on AliExpress. 

I do not think it is bad to check if you are buying good and recommended stuff, I think it is good to realize we are here al together thanks to the Chinese companies that make the kits and produce the parts for us.

I agree my point was are they mean well or are they mean well copy's just like a lot of the so called hywin linear rails kicking around I do know some vendors are above board and sell what they say they do and others .... and last thi g I want to do is spend x dollars on stuff to get it fried because of a sub standard psu so I thought I would ask just in case some one has used them and can vouch for the reviews as I would have no idea if they are the real ones or not 

[mvdveer]

7 hours ago, sleepster217 said:

I agree my point was are they mean well or are they mean well copy's just like a lot o

I agree. From experience I bought "genuine Omron Relays" from Ali Express only to turn out they were fakes, branded as Omron. Found that out the hard way. 

 

8 hours ago, Dirk said:

All the kits that were talked about here, are from China.

That does not prevent sellers to manufacture look alike products, and there is no way of being sure either prior to purchase.

[Dirk]

9 hours ago, mvdveer said:

That does not prevent sellers to manufacture look alike product

True. They are even able to produce exactly the same of a product. Which sometimes make them a very good alternative:-)

I bought for example a Revo voron clone. For 33€s. It has all features of the original. Including the accuracy and speed. It can even use original revo voron nozzles.

Another thing that has changed on AliExpress is that the dispute system works a lot different than a couple of years ago. If you find a product is fake and can prove it to them with a video, by means of images, you can return the item or get a refund without having to return it. Not as cool as Amazon returns, bit not bad also.

[sleepster217]

6 hours ago, Dirk said:

True. They are even able to produce exactly the same of a product. Which sometimes make them a very good alternative:-)

I bought for example a Revo voron clone. For 33€s. It has all features of the original. Including the accuracy and speed. It can even use original revo voron nozzles.

Another thing that has changed on AliExpress is that the dispute system works a lot different than a couple of years ago. If you find a product is fake and can prove it to them with a video, by means of images, you can return the item or get a refund without having to return it. Not as cool as Amazon returns, bit not bad also.

That is interesting I like that idea 

[sleepster217]

So just got my cnc tap kit my friend has printed the beefy rollers and the surround for the larger 5inch screen and the stuff for the filter mods above also the nozzel cleaner mod and some other bits I am about to resume building soon just waiting on the 5mm rod for the beefy rollers I also am going for the galileo2 as well so they all should keep me out of trouble 

I hear people talking about chamber temps what are everyone using for temp probes and are they interfacing it with clipper or is it just a stick on temp probe with a digital display 

 

Thankyou for all the help so far

[Penatr8tor]

This is literally all you need...

Just find a place inside your "chamber" and run it to your controller. Then set up your printer.cfg with

[temperature_sensor chamber]
sensor_type: Generic 3950
sensor_pin: <your pin>
min_temp: 0
max_temp: 100
gcode_id: C

Disclaimer: This code is a sample and is untested. I got it from the Voron Docs

[KrauTech]

Glad to see another aussie! Youre game self sourcing looking good with everything ive seen and read so far

[sleepster217]

10 hours ago, KrauTech said:

Glad to see another aussie! Youre game self sourcing looking good with everything ive seen and read so far

Been a long grind will be putting up some pics once I start building again soon and thankyou

[sleepster217]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqlST5o

Hopefully the link works what is everyone's thoughts on the pi2 from btt in stead of the raspberry pi 4 4gb or the 5 4gb are the btt pi up to it or a pain

[sleepster217]

Bowden connector what size do we need to fit the voron printed parts and how many bom says one but I don't think that is right and also dose not list a size any help would be appreciated using stock filter with the insert for the media and galleleo2 with the bowden conector I am aware that the tube is 4mm odd and 3mm Id and the below extruder is Id 2mm 4mm odd is the thread size I am unsure on

Edited May 27, 2024 by sleepster217

[Penatr8tor]

1 hour ago, sleepster217 said:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqlST5o

Hopefully the link works what is everyone's thoughts on the pi2 from btt in stead of the raspberry pi 4 4gb or the 5 4gb are the btt pi up to it or a pain

My personal preference is a Pi 3B or better. @mvdveer and myself have both gotten Pi 5's with NVME SSD drives running Klipper and I'm going to use that in my 2.4 refurbish / upgrade. My justification for the extra expense is that an SSD won't go bad like micro SD cards do over time. Well, I will correct myself and say that all nonvolatile memory will wear out over time and SD cards are more prone to failure. Plus, the SSD's are orders of magnitude faster. I would say my minimum would be a Pi 4B with 4gb memory and a good quality name brand SD card.

[Penatr8tor]

1 hour ago, sleepster217 said:

Bowden connector what size do we need to fit the voron printed parts and how many bom says one but I don't think that is right and also dose not list a size any help would be appreciated using stock filter with the insert for the media and galleleo2 with the bowden conector I am aware that the tube is 4mm odd and 3mm Id and the below extruder is Id 2mm 4mm odd is the thread size I am unsure on

Check out my 2.4 refurb thread.

I just redesigned the rear filter box to fit a standard vacuum cleaner HEPA filter with active carbon sheet filter. If you'd like to use it instead of the Voron one let me know and I'll post the Fusion 360 and STL files.

 

[sleepster217]

9 hours ago, Penatr8tor said:

My personal preference is a Pi 3B or better. @mvdveer and myself have both gotten Pi 5's with NVME SSD drives running Klipper and I'm going to use that in my 2.4 refurbish / upgrade. My justification for the extra expense is that an SSD won't go bad like micro SD cards do over time. Well, I will correct myself and say that all nonvolatile memory will wear out over time and SD cards are more prone to failure. Plus, the SSD's are orders of magnitude faster. I would say my minimum would be a Pi 4B with 4gb memory and a good quality name brand SD card.

Fair enough thought I would ask the pi 2 I was talking about was a btt one not a normal pi but I am thinking I will go tje 5 4gb as only 15 dollars between the 4 4gb and the 5 4gb

 

[sleepster217]

19 hours ago, Penatr8tor said:

My personal preference is a Pi 3B or better. @mvdveer and myself have both gotten Pi 5's with NVME SSD drives running Klipper and I'm going to use that in my 2.4 refurbish / upgrade. My justification for the extra expense is that an SSD won't go bad like micro SD cards do over time. Well, I will correct myself and say that all nonvolatile memory will wear out over time and SD cards are more prone to failure. Plus, the SSD's are orders of magnitude faster. I would say my minimum would be a Pi 4B with 4gb memory and a good quality name brand SD card.

Do u need the hat on the pi to add the ssd ?

 

[claudermilk]

That is an interesting looking hat.  It would certainly make swapping drives easier since the SD slot is inaccessible on my Trident.

[Penatr8tor]

3 hours ago, sleepster217 said:

Do u need the hat on the pi to add the ssd ?

Yes, you need the hat to run the NVME SSD. I specifically reference "NVME" because the old SATA M.2 drives will not work.

The hat will also work if you have the Pi5 official active cooler installed (which I do) and what's nice is that the fan on the 5 has a special connector and doesn't use the PIO power pins. You also get a PIO pin riser with the hat as well.

I have this one -> Waveshare NVME Hat $16 US

And I'm using this for my SSD -> Samsung 256gb NVME SSD $25 US

And the Pi5 cooler -> Active Cooler $13 US

I also went ahead and bought an NVME to USB Adapter $11 US to flash the Pi OS onto the drive from my PC.

All told the total additional isn't really that much (~$65 US) considering the benefits over the old Pi. 

[sleepster217]

4 hours ago, Penatr8tor said:

Yes, you need the hat to run the NVME SSD. I specifically reference "NVME" because the old SATA M.2 drives will not work.

The hat will also work if you have the Pi5 official active cooler installed (which I do) and what's nice is that the fan on the 5 has a special connector and doesn't use the PIO power pins. You also get a PIO pin riser with the hat as well.

I have this one -> Waveshare NVME Hat $16 US

And I'm using this for my SSD -> Samsung 256gb NVME SSD $25 US

And the Pi5 cooler -> Active Cooler $13 US

I also went ahead and bought an NVME to USB Adapter $11 US to flash the Pi OS onto the drive from my PC.

All told the total additional isn't really that much (~$65 US) considering the benefits over the old Pi. 

Thankyou for the links I should be able to find ones the same here in australia

[sleepster217]

Bowden connector the bom sheet dose not state what size thread they are and and do I need more if using the galileo2 extruder I know the tube size is 4mm is just the thread size as there is a few different sizes and I want to move the build along soon 

 

Thankyou in advance 

[mvdveer]

1 hour ago, sleepster217 said:

Bowden connector the bom sheet dose not state what size thread they are and and do I need more if using the galileo2 extruder I know the tube size is 4mm is just the thread size as there is a few different sizes and I want to move the build along soon 

Thankyou in advance 

The Bowden connector’s are not threaded, they are pressure fittedLike these(ECAS), on Aliexpress. 

The Galileo 2 uses the same connector.If you need them urgently, I am happy to give you some (I have about a 100) , depending where in Australia you are, we can arrange for a pickup if you’re in Melbourne. (Just DM me)

 

[sleepster217]

14 minutes ago, mvdveer said:

The Bowden connector’s are not threaded, they are pressure fittedLike these(ECAS), on Aliexpress. 

The Galileo 2 uses the same connector.If you need them urgently, I am happy to give you some (I have about a 100) , depending where in Australia you are, we can arrange for a pickup if you’re in Melbourne. (Just DM me)

I thought one end was threaded and thankyou no don't need em urgent just want to order then and keep the project moving along I was aware were the bowden tube goes in is threaded was the other end I was meaning just looked at your link I see what you mean 

[mvdveer]

3 minutes ago, sleepster217 said:

I thought one end was threaded and thankyou no don't need em urgent just want to order then and keep the project moving along I was aware were the bowden tube goes in is threaded was the other end I was meaning just looked at your link I see what you mean 

Don’t get that one - won’t work with the current stl’s